Experts discuss problems of Armenia 

ArmInfo. The processes taking place in Armenia today were discussed at the round table "Problems around Armenia and their possible solutions" that took place the day before. Experts and political scientists, representatives of public organizations took part in the public discussion.

The processes taking place today in Armenia were discussed at the round table "Problems around Armenia  and their possible solutions" that took place the day before. Experts and political scientists, representatives of public organizations took part in the public discussion.

Former NA deputy, analyst Arman Abovyan noted in his speech that the  events taking place these days in Armenia are of an extraordinary  nature, since, on the one hand, it seems that political processes are  emerging, but on the other hand, they cannot be called completely  political. In this context, the expert referred to the statement of  the leader of the movement, Archbishop Bagrat Srbazan, that the  movement was blessed by Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin, since  what is happening is an ontological problem for everyone, and the  position of the Church is that these ontological risks do not  threaten the opposition or the authorities, and to every Armenian,  every citizen of the country.

"I do not and will not discuss the decisions of the church, but it is  obvious that this movement, led by the Holy Church, is not creating a  new social divide, but, on the contrary, is trying to destroy the  existing divisions into black and white in society, basing it on the  principle of pro-Armenian unity. We are talking about broad social  solidarity, which is essentially apolitical. Yes, there is a  political component in the movement, everything will ultimately be  decided in the political field, but the process itself, the  philosophy must be apolitical, as it is today," added Arman Abovyan.  "I do not and will not discuss the decisions of the church, but it is  obvious that this movement, led by the Holy Church, is not creating a  new social divide, but, on the contrary, is trying to destroy the  existing divisions into black and white in society, basing it on the  principle of pro-Armenian unity. We are talking about broad social  solidarity, which is essentially apolitical. Yes, there is a  political component to the movement, everything will ultimately be  decided in the political field, but the process itself, the  philosophy should be apolitical, as it is today," added Arman  Abovyan.

Media expert Tigran Kocharyan noted in his speech that what is  happening today in Armenia is a slightly different process, since the  policy of the authorities is opposed not by classical politicians,  but by the ministers of the Armenian Apostolic Church, against whom  the authorities will not be able to "effectively" use their proven  tools - intimidation, arrests, persecution, pressure, etc. Because  persecution opens the gates of heaven even wider for church  ministers. That is why the technologies that the authorities tried to  work with, up to the discrediting of Bagrat Galstanyan, did not work,  they gave the opposite result. "That's why today they are trying in  every possible way to connect Bagrat Galstanyan with one or another  former politician," he said.

Kocharyan noted that the leader of the movement is fluent in all the  tools that Pashinyan used 6 years ago to achieve power, and is fluent  in the codes of communication with the people. "If a person goes to  fight for the sake of faith, for the sake of an idea, it is difficult  to fight with such people. The government is now in a difficult  situation. And the authorities, as I see, for example, do not have  any calculation of what will happen if force is used against Bagrat  Galstanyan. At this stage, much depends on the position of the  Minister of Internal Affairs Vahe Ghazaryan, whether the police will  go against the people or join them.  And it is clear that Vahe  Kazaryan is under terrible pressure, because although Pashinyan would  like to replace him, on the other hand, it is difficult for him to  find such a devoted person. And it is in this Tavush triangle  Pashinyan-Ghazaryan-Bagrat Galstanyan that issues will be resolved,"  added Tigran Kocharyan.

In turn, political scientist Vigen Hakobyan noted that this movement  is not apolitical, but non-partisan, because the entire agenda, all  the demands and assessments that have been put forward, starting with  Kirants, are a political agenda. And in recent days, already in  Yerevan, this agenda has acquired different shades: quite serious  political demands were put forward, up to the resignation of the  prime minister, and a political mechanism was proposed. "In my  opinion, this is a public revolt against the politics and behavior of  the authorities, which from the moment the procession reached Yerevan  moved into the political arena, which Bagrat Galstanyan also spoke  about yesterday. Yesterday there was talk about the  institutionalization of the movement, which means that it must be an  institution if they decide to go the constitutional route, and there  is a great need to present some alternative to the public. In the  coming days, the mechanisms for governing the movement will change,  certain personalities will appear on the platform, which must be  accepted by the public. I think it will be some kind of hybrid. an  organ where both the spiritual class and some famous people will be  represented," he said.

According to Hakobyan, the instruments of power do not work, the  arsenal of anti-propaganda is not rich and has absolutely no effect.  The authorities tried to use the same tools that, for example,  against the second president Robert Kocharyan, but in this case it  did not produce any results.

Political scientist Arman Ghukasyan, noting that Armenia has recently  been in a turbulent state, recalled that the country's authorities,  according to both internal and external opinion polls, today have  very little support. The problem is that there is a lot of  indifference in society, society is in a state of apathy, and the  government is both responsible and the driving force behind the  crisis that has developed in the country.  According to Ghukasyan,  society is no longer fixated on the individual, people are not  waiting for a specific person, the most important question is who can  offer ways out of this crisis.

"There can no longer be a personalized process, because one day, in  2018, such a "savior" appeared, and we see what came of it. I am  convinced that a clear concept will win. Everyone is waiting for  clear concepts, which means "Nikol, go away, and then we'll see what  we'll do" won't work anymore. And the 2018 scenario won't work  either. We need truly national unity, which will allow us to  understand the following questions: well, the government has changed,  how will the delimitation be carried out, or will we be able to  return Artsakh?" the political scientist said.

In other words, Ghukasyan stated, we are at a stage when it is clear  that Pashinyan's policy is a failure and the country needs other  solutions, since it is impossible to lead the country out of this  crisis only by changing power and changing people.