ArmInfo. The symbol of defeat cannot lead to a dignified peace, believes the second president of Armenia Robert Kocharyan. "We always talk about the need to establish a dignified peace in the region. I do not believe that the symbol of defeat can lead to a dignified peace. He is trying to save himself at any cost, and a person with that motivation cannot prioritize thinking about the country. The individual who is doing this has other motivations. He wants a paper about Nikol Pashinyan, and it has nothing to do with peace," Kocharyan said in an interview with several Armenian media outlets.
According to the politician, the footage from Albania that circulated around the world showing the meeting between the Armenian prime minister and the leaders of Turkey and Azerbaijan is a disgrace for the country. "This was the behavior of a person who had lost his dignity. He was hunched over at these meetings. It seems that a relationship of a subordinate to a superior, or a slave to a master, was established here. His body language conveyed everything perfectly, and nothing positive should be expected for the country from this person," the second president of Armenia noted.
The former president of the country stated that today Armenia is currently unable to guarantee its own security in the region. According to him, Armenia today positions itself in the international arena as a burden for its partners and allies. "Nobody today can say that Armenia can secure its own safety on its own. Therefore, first of all, you must be more organized internally, strengthen the military and establish relationships with potential geopolitical partners who can help address these vulnerabilities," the politician added, adding that he does not see such steps from the current authorities.
According to Kocharyan, today's Armenian authorities are doing everything to turn friends into enemies. He is also sure that the current authorities do not have a clearly developed foreign policy that would serve the national interests of the country. Kocharyan noted that Armenia is surrounded by Russia from the north and Iran from the south, and in the current reality, it is simply naive to think that Europe can ensure its security. He believes that Armenia is a tool in the hands of Europe to slightly annoy Russia. "There are three countries that can play a role in this region - Russia, Turkey and Iran. We need to see which of these three countries is strong in both the military and economic sectors and is close to us in spirit in the cultural sphere - and this is Russia," he noted.
Touching upon Turkey, he recalled that Armenian-Turkish relations are burdened with serious historical issues. "Turkey's Ottoman aspirations are resurfacing. We are seen as a foreign body in the large political landscape that Turkey is clearly shaping today. Turkey's ambitions in the region are growing day by day. The only country capable of containing these ambitions is Russia. Therefore, we must have good relations with Russia as a means to contain Turkey. We need to build good relations with this country, without yielding to any form of blackmail," he noted. According to him, it is necessary to restore strategic partnership with Russia and include the Iranian factor. "We need to add the Iranian component to Armenian-Russian relations, turning them into a trilateral format," Kocharyan believes. The second president of Armenia also did not agree that Turkey sees threats in talks about Western Armenia. "I believe, the notion of a so-called Western Azerbaijan poses a significant threat. It seems to me that Pashinyan regards the "real Armenia" within the context of Western Azerbaijan. You believe that someone in Armenia is encroaching on Mount Ararat. No one has intentions to seize Ararat, no one in engaging in such grandiose adventurism. Ararat is our symbol, part of our national identity. The current government is destroying our ideas about our own symbols," he noted.
According to Kocharyan, the process of international recognition of the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire by Armenia was seen as a way to ensure its own security. "We approached this issue not just emotionally, but also as a component of Armenia's security," the former president of Armenia said.
Referring to talks about Armenia's potential accession to the Union State, Kocharyan noted that during his presidency, there were never any discussions with the presidents of Russia about Armenia's inclusion in the Union State. "I have never had such conversations with either Yeltsin or Putin. And Lukashenko has never spoken about this," he noted.
He noted that the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has been demonized by Western countries for a very long time. "The negative attitude towards the President of Belarus was formed after his visit to Shushi. Now this is being used to its full extent. During my presidency, Belarus did not take actions that caused our discontent. On the contrary, he always stood by us, I do not know what happened since then," the politician added.
Additionally, he expressed the conviction that when joining the EU, states lose sovereignty many times over which can be lost when joining the Union State. "If sovereignty is a priority for Armenia, then the further from the EU, the better. The EU is the biggest model for losing sovereignty," he noted, adding that the EU has a number of structures endowed with punitive functions. Kocharyan once again emphasized that the current Armenian authorities are promoting false theses about Russia, using the entire propaganda machine for this purpose to generate anti-Russian sentiments and sow distrust towards the Russian Federation. Touching upon the discontent with the CSTO during the Azerbaijani aggression, Kocharyan noted that the issue of the occupation of Armenian territories by Azerbaijan should have been resolved not through the CSTO, but through Armenian-Russian relations. "You ruin relations with a key CSTO member, and then you complain that the CSTO did not help. We have taken the position of the offended party, but Russia should have taken this position after signing the document in Prague, because we have nullified its mediation role, and then we are calling for it to be a mediator again," he noted.